Ijango is BAD for Google Content Network Advertisers
Danger, Will Robinson! Ijango is bad for Google advertisers.
This post is a public service announcement aimed at advertisers who use the Google Content Network.
A new MLM scheme called iJango has recently reared it’s ugly head, and it directly threatens your ROI. Unfortunately, iJango was able to get a Google Adsense account, even though it clearly violates Adsense program policies. If you read the policies page, please notice the 2nd topic labeled “Encouraging Clicks.” It states the following:
Encouraging Clicks
Publishers may not ask others to click their ads or use deceptive implementation methods to obtain clicks. This includes, but is not limited to, offering compensation to users for viewing ads or performing searches, promising to raise money for third parties for such behavior or placing images next to individual ads.
The part I put in boldface describes what iJango is all about.
Ijango is a hacked up version of Omar Al Zabir’s Dropthings, a free, open source, AJAX web portal. An easy way to prove this is by simply doing a site:president.ijango.com query in Google. The person programming iJango forgot to change the built-in meta descriptions, and Google indexed it the last time it crawled the site. In case you are catching this article after they fixed it, here is a screenshot of the query at the time this article was written:
Proof that iJango is using the Free, Open Source, portal script called Dropthings
A month before it actually launched, there was a lot of hype and propaganda generated by the people behind it. It has been pitched as a way for people to make money by using the internet, viewing ads, and performing searches. Here is a link to their latest video, and it is a great example of what I’m talking about: http://www.ijango.biz
The type of people who are falling for this scheme all have the same type of mental deficiency. They are all ignorant as to how internet advertising works, and they have a disturbing sense of entitlement to YOUR online advertising dollars. They all believe that this is some revolutionary idea that has never been done, and that they are all going to become millionaires by simply surfing the internet. Ijango is nothing more than the old “paid to surf” scheme, wrapped up in a new and shiny package, and being sold as something else. It’s one of those “accepted scams” in the sense that it’s a little bit of truth mixed in with a lot of lies, and pulls the wool over the eyes of the ignorant. The good news is that it has not worked since it launched on Saturday. The bad news is you’ve got an army of brainwashed, “get rich quick” people chomping at the bit ready to run up your CPM ads and click your CPC ads, so that they can GET PAID! Here is a screenshot of some tweets about iJango from it’s “directors.” This is an excellent example of the mentality of the people using and promoting iJango.
Example of the mentality of iJango directors.
What can I do about the iJango threat?
Glad you asked, because that’s the whole purpose of this post. The most important thing you can do is to add ijango.com to your site exclusion list. In case you are not sure how to do this, I am providing this simple “step by step” guide on how to block your ads from being served to the rabid dogs on iJango.
Step 1: Log in to your Adwords account and select the 4th tab over labeled “Tools.” You will see a drop down appear, and you will want to click on “More Tools >>” as seen in the screenshot.
Select More Tools in the Google Adwords interface
Step 2: You will now be at the “Tools” page for your Adwords account. On the left column, look for the header labeled “Optimize Your Ads.” The 5th clickable item is called “Site and Category Exclusion”, and you will want to click that.
Click on "Site and Category Exclusion" from the Adwords Tools page
Step 3: You should now be on the “Site and Category Exclusion” page as pictured below. If you are running multiple campaigns, you will need to select one from the drop down menu. Once your campaign is selected, simply enter ijango.com into the text box, and click “Save All Changes.” It’s important that you put in ijango.com WITHOUT the www. iJango has subdomains for all it’s users, so doing it this way will block your ads from being serviced on iJango sitewide! If you have multiple campaigns, you will need to repeat this process for each one! Now your advertising dollars are protected from the people that feel they are entitled to it for doing nothing!
Enter ijango.com into the text box, and click Save all Changes
August 4th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
Good post.
I am not familiar with running adwords campaigns myself, but if it is possible to add wildcard domains into the exclusion list it might be a good idea.
At the least adding ijango.biz will offer some addition protection.
You can rest assured they will have the plug yanked by google pretty quickly though. You can also bet they will try to change their domain name to get around it.
August 4th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
Excellent Post! I hope you get tons of backlinks!
August 4th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
I don’t blame you for being frustrated if what you said is the truth….. However, I believe you are misinformed or misunderstanding.
We do NOT encourage people to ‘click’ on anything and will not. What we DO encourage, is normal internet use through a ‘portal’ that iJango provides.
Why do you care if some of your advertising dollars go back to the general populace of the internet instead of being retained by Google, Yahoo, and Bing, exclusively? You won’t being paying more for those ads. So, I don’t understand why you are having a problem with this.
August 4th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
So pro.
August 5th, 2009 at 2:28 am
Great post, keep them coming!
August 5th, 2009 at 11:10 am
You truly are ignorant if you believe these huge companies do not monitor your add dollars. Use for example a competitor of mine under bids a job I wanted for my company.What would keep me from just clicking away at my own free will, to ensure he is out thousands if not millions of dollars,this would be the same activity you are telling people ijango would be doing,that would be fraud.It would also be the stupidest model ever.Do your research.
Ijango reps. earn income off of others activity such as shopping , blogging, searching and purchasing etc.If what you said was true every scam artist out there would be setting up accounts and searching away in order to make easy money.Fear is a huge part of what you are filtering,it is what politicians do, it is what you are doing using the idea that this is a scam and people will lose MONEY.It is funny how one lone wolf with an agenda can produce so much fear.What are you afraid of and why are you the only one?Why aren’t the billion dollar companies that you are using for yourself today on this page with you if it is so apparrent?Please inlighten me with facts not hate and fear!!
August 5th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
Funny how now you are showing advertisers how to “beat” iJango. Are you admitting that the whole site is not a scam now? Why would they have to “defeat” something that is a scam? That would fix itself if it were true.
Why are you so bent on trying to make iJango fail? If it helps people out in these tough economic times, why is that a bad thing? I would be more interested in trying to make it work for people to help them out in their lives. People are losing jobs and this may be an answer for some of them. There are a lot of business models out there that I hate with a passion and I would never give them a cent, but I will not go out and try to deliberately ruin their business. That puts people out of work and affects everyone whether you see it or not.
iJango is meant to help people take advantage of ways other businesses are making a fortune. If something is working for someone, why try to ruin it unless you are jealous? Why wouldn’t you try to work with them and take advantage of an awesome opportunity?
You must lead a very sad life if this is how you get your high.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
Alisa, the fact that you don’t know the answer to that is exactly why people have to block Ijango.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
ijango will get banned from adsense , it’s just a matter of time. (at least, as long as it starts actually working…it’s down again, even the president one is down again)
alisa, it does not matter if users are encouraged or not. if affiliates get paid for clicking…they will tell people to click…it’s as simple as that.
the problem is…if there are high click to impression ratios…or if people don’t stay on the clicked sites long enough…the adsense account will get flagged for review. once ijango gets reviewed by the adsense team. it will get banned.
August 5th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
btw
only an initial adsense account website is reviewed by google…after that, and once approved, adsense affiliates are free to add other sites to their account…
so the idea that …well, google already reviewed it…so it must be ok…is most likely not the case.
August 5th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
Guys yolk it up on here because the only thing being shut down after ijango gets back up is this blog sorry kyle.
And for the rest of you. if Ijango is sooooo BAD for adsense accounts and google. why don’t you just leave it up for them to decide. well…. you’ll have to once this gets shut down. again…. sorry kyle.
And if you don’t want any legal action taken against you i’d quit with all the proprietary jargon. Just becuase you think your saving someone by spamming misinformed and redirected comments on here, think about these multi billion dollar companies you are advocating for. You are their bit^*s and you can’t do anything about it. so don’t you think they can handle their own.
Apparently not, or you wouldn’t be quoting terms and conditions of companies you know nothing about.
This is my last post because I KNOW SOMETHING YOU GUYS DON’T. Can’t wait to see some of your mugs on the “busted” paper in the gas stations you’ll be working at after all this goes down.
And if you know anyone who maliciously attacked ijango via blog/server/proprietary I would advise them to Run Forrest RUUUUN! =)
August 5th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
Im so friggin confused!!! My friend just had me sign up for Ijango last night. I told her I was not sure because I have seen all of this mumbo jumbo on the internet about it being a scam and she had faith enough to sign me up under her credit card and paid for it up front for me. She is a pretty savvy business woman. She runs a few other “at home” businesses that are doing great! WHat am I missing? It sounds way too good to be true but then again my friend really has faith in this right now. Where do I find positive feedback about Ijango? I went to their site a moment ago and it pretty much says that they are trying to catch up with the people! I dont know, I dont get it….I would really like for someone to send me some information on this if you could. I have heard all the negative, so I dont need to hear that. I want to hear some positive!
A. Coop
August 5th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
I’m cracking up at ReadyFreddy’s comment. This blog isn’t going anywhere son, and that’s because all the author is doing is sharing his opinion on this ridiculous iJango business model. Don’t threaten your betters with legal action that wouldn’t get past the first motion to dismiss. It makes you look desperate and extremely inexperienced.
Perhaps you think this is the best opportunity since the invention of the pixel, but any experienced web entrepreneur is laughing at you. We know you want this to work so you can move out of your mom’s basement and live the good life while “multi-leveling Google,” but you can’t outrun the fact that the whole thing is fantastically weak. Time is not on your side.
Anyway, survival of the fittest… some of you will make money off the backs of the those who come in later. Its a story as old as the ages. I say great! Natural selection will sort you all out and those of you in early will soon be onto the next world changing opportunity.
August 5th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
is it just me…or have they turned the public face of ijango off?
LOL.
so the only way to become a user is to be personally signed up on an affiliates page?
good luck with that.
LOL.
August 5th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
Freddy want to meet? You obviously have a lot of anger that you need to diffuse.
August 5th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Freddy why dont you post your real name/info?
Why dont YOU yolk it up
August 5th, 2009 at 7:46 pm
sounds a heck of lot like transference to me.
he realizes he’s been conned (again) but only on a subconcious level.
August 5th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
Server Error in ‘/’ Application.
The INSERT permission was denied on the object ‘ASPStateTempSessions’, database ‘tempdb’, schema ‘dbo’.
looking at the detailed info, and running off a bit of conjecture, I would say they have realized they can’t run this on a single server instance, and are attempting to run it on multiple servers (either sepparting the web tasks, or using amazons load balancing feature)
However, the problem is pretty darn obvious.
from the look of things though dropthings (which has been proven that this is what they are using) does not scale well, it’s not built to do what they are trying to do, and they are having session and temp db problems because they are trying to isolate tasks.
guess what ijango..
you need to hire real programmers now!
August 5th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
Hahaha I love it….. “this blog isn’t going anywhere son” We’ll see… Freddy’s new best friend, I’d love to meet. I’m always ready…. So where would you like to go? Would you like to meet me in Texas where we can watch Spam Scums ridiculous warrant executed. Oh, I know, lets just meet at your place of employment. Do you even have a job? Most of you guys are unemployed or struggling anyways, right? I’m sure that’s why most of you are engaged in this, ijango must be a direct threat to your jobs or sites or both.
I have a great idea, come join the ijango team and help me “move out of my mothers basement” and buy that “prius” I’ve always wanted. Maybe one day if I work reaaal hard, I’ll obtain my drivers license, and get an apartment overlooking downtown. Oh what a dream of mine!!
Coop All I can say is stick with the winners not the whiners. If anyone of these naysayers had any real prosperity in their life they wouldn’t be spending there “precious,super intelligent, ego friendly” time on here. Coop look up above you have guys wanting to test the muster in person with someone they don’t even know and have obviously changed their fake name to another fake name to hide once again who the really are. If they are anything like kyle, they are merely threatened. Economically that is….
Coop you didn’t pay a thing out of pocket…. I’f you are still weary of pursuing what these outside introverts can not socially achieve, I suggest you just sit back for a few days and watch what happens. These ladies will try to stomp negativity in your face. Their aren’t at fault, they truly believe what they are doing is right, just like your friend who introduced you. Would you rather trust a dear friend or a group of lonely useless people you don’t even know.
Coop these ladies have not, can not, and will not ever take a risk in their entire lives. Trust me, they are sitting at home or behind someone else’s responsibilities because they lack loyalty to them selves and only give it to their employers or behind the closed front door and shaded windows of their so called “failed” lives.
Bring it on Ladies!!!!!
August 6th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
August 5th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
Sean Says:
“Funny how now you are showing advertisers how to “beat” iJango. Are you admitting that the whole site is not a scam now? Why would they have to “defeat” something that is a scam? That would fix itself if it were true.”
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He isn’t showing advertisers how to “beat” iJango… he is showing them how to protect themselves from having to pay for empty clicks.
August 6th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
Why does Cameron, and his MLM cultists with him, always speak in cliches?
You ain’t Ben Franklin.
August 6th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
@Sean
@Truly Informed
@Freddy
“…to argue with a man who has renounced his reason is like giving medicine to the dead.”
-Thomas Paine
August 6th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
Dave,
Really, you again offer nothing. Your misinformed, mis-comprehend. The iJango model is plausible, may not be the best model, but plausible. And it working.
And the end of the day, advertisers want eyes, they have portal that people gather and use. For someone get rich at clicking ads would yield a deep cast of carpal tunnel before wealth.
I don’t know why you insist on harassing these guys, what’s in it for you?
If you’re doing us a service, and you really feel that this helps us, than follow your heart.
But get you facts straight.
Regards,
e
August 6th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
Earl:
Please provide evidence that ‘it working.’
David has provided much evidence from third party and verifiable sources to support his case that this is a bad idea.
The other side just clings to lies and ‘faith.’
August 6th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
The people who make their living in legitimate web site development and advertising do not like schemes like iJango that pay people to frivolously click on ads with no intention of buying anything. The common term for this is “click fraud” and it has been something legitimate website developers and advertisers have tried to police for quite some time.
If paying advertisers do not get value for their advertisements, they are less likely to use that form of advertising with their marketing budgets, thus devaluing the effectiveness of web advertising for everyone.
Based on the intelligence level displayed by many of the iJango supporters on this board and in other places on the web like YouTube, it is a legitimate concern that at least some of these people will actually think they are generating dollars every time they click something on their iJango portal.
While almost everything they click on their “portal” will not actually generate any dollars for iJango or their salespeople, there are some actual ads and opportunities for the uninformed to click away on thinking they are generating revenue. They will be tiny dollars for the “clickers” individually, but to advertisers that are attempting reach out to legitimate customers, this could be a concern if a couple thousand rabid iJango directors are all up clicking away every night thinking they are making money for themselves or their “upline”.
This is the reason for David Kyle’s post.
That being said, the iJango website architecture and design will very likely not generate alot of activity other than an internal group of “iJango” fans that are all trying to make money by clicking away. The site is a very simplistic site put together very haphazardly. It completely stretches the bounds of credibility to believe that 70+ programmers are on the iJango payroll as their leaders suggest. The site is cumbersome, bland and looks like a hastily put together and very poorly done imitation of iGoogle and several other customizable home page templates.
It seems like Steve Smith and Cameron Sharpe sat down and spoke the infamous words to each other, “what….if you could MLM Google?” and then they went about figuring out everything about great compensation plans, getting the best lawyers and how to get people signed up and how to get people excited about paying them up front and then, at the last minute they thought, “oh yeah, we might need a web site to do this! Let’s see what our IT guy can put together.”
The sequence for a representative from iJango to invite someone on to their personal portal so they can get paid is almost humorous in it’s complexity. In order to be promoted to a Regional Director, which is the first and lowest rung on the iJango ladder, iJango people are forced to gather at least 20 non-iJango “personal customers” that:
1) have to log in under the Director’s unique referral code.
2) Upon logging in from the unique referral code, these customers are asked to “join” by:
3) inputting their telephone number into a sign up box that includes a unique pin number.
4) iJango then calls this customer on the number provided and asks for the pin code.
5) Once the customer inputs the pin code, the customer is then asked to fill out a sign up form asking for personal information about themselves along with creating a new user name and password.
6) Once this is all done, they are now the referring iJango reps “personal customer” and all the clicks that generate dollars to iJango will earn a small percentage of iJangos’ revenues to the iJango Director that they signed under for the activity that the “personal customer” generates.
7) The “personal customer” MUST log in with the assigned user name and password they created each time they go to the iJango site. If they do not, the referring iJango representative will not get credit for their activity.
Are normal people that are not iJango representatives going to go through all these steps to get access to a web site that does not give them anything new or exciting? Are non-iJango people going to switch to a home page that they must log on to and that is not as nice as their current home page? Maybe once or twice as a favor to the person asking, but habitually?
Even if every iJango person did get 20 “personal customers” and they all used iJango, the revenue generating portions of their website are miniscule, at best, for each rep. Even if one person had literally tens of thousands of people all using iJango under them in their “downline”, they would not generate many dollars. If you are seriously thinking about making this a career and spending any time with this, I would implore you to speak with someone with some web advertising, SEM or SEO experience. They will concur with the above opinion.
Many iJango people seem to think that just having a “Cheaptickets.com” link on their website earns them money. They do not appear to realize that one must click on that link and actually buy something in order for revenue to be generated – revenues which, by the way, are very minimal. iJango people also seem to think that if you do a simple search on iJango that they will get paid somehow. (perhaps because they have been told this by their founder, but that is another story.) Who is paying iJango for this activity? They don’t know, but they believe. What they think is that they “are getting in front of Google” and capturing a portion of Google’s revenues. To anyone that is familiar with how web advertising and search portals operate, they know how ridiculous this all sounds, but based on this board and what we are seeing from iJango people on the web, they really believe this.
It would be a pretty good bet that some people both inside the iJango organization and also those out recruiting are probably intelligent enough to know this is all a scam. Getting people to pay their $149 up front and $20 per month is their primary goal. Many iJango people do appear to actually think they are going to become millionaires on click revenues. This is clearly not going to happen based on the the incredibly vast numbers of people you would actually need in your “downline” to generate any real revenues, particularly when your portal provider, iJango, is taking the lion’s share of the commissions on every click.
A pertinent question to ask: If click revenue was so lucrative to iJango or the reps, why would iJango charge people $150 and then $20 per month? If the click revenues were going to be so huge, there would be no need for these charges. Wouldn’t they just give this great technology away if the more people using it, the more money they made? Wouldn’t they give it away for free if every person that goes on to the iJango website was going to generate real revenues for them each time they logged on? It is simple economics that the lower the cost of the services, the more people would use it, so why are they charging so much for a web page that is supposed to generate so many dollars through click revenue?
Of course, most intelligent people that have evaluated this know why those up front and back office charges are necessary. You cannot sustain this model without continually signing up new people paying $150 up front and $20 per month. The click revenues are just the ruse that iJango is using to convince people to part with $390 per year. Once the people signing up stop coming in, the revenues will dry up and then a new idea will pop up from the iJango leaders. “What if you could MLM……X?”
August 7th, 2009 at 12:17 am
@Earl
what is not “straight” about violating Google’s policies?
most advertisers don’t want this group of eyes. they are clouded by dollar signs.
there are a minority of verticals that can capitalize on this demographic of middle aged, pie in the sky lemmings.
None of my advertisers fall into the latter. To them, iJango is a major liability! A liability that is terminated with a click!
August 7th, 2009 at 1:24 am
David Kyle Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 12:17 am
A liability that is terminated with a click!
If only we could do the same with Cameron
August 7th, 2009 at 10:56 am
“They will be tiny dollars for the “clickers” individually, but to advertisers that are attempting reach out to legitimate customers, this could be a concern if a couple thousand rabid iJango directors are all up clicking away every night thinking they are making money for themselves or their “upline”.”
Why do you think people have to register as a customer? Everything you do will be monitored and if abuse is seen, you will be banned. They have told us this. How stupid do you think google and advertisers are that you think you have to educate them on how to run their business? When anyone wants to register with google to make money off their products, they check into all details about the website applying in order to be sure it fits their guidelines. They know what iJango is, they are not stupid. You don’t build a multi-billion dollar company by being ignorant to your users.
“In order to be promoted to a Regional Director, which is the first and lowest rung on the iJango ladder, iJango people are forced to gather at least 20 non-iJango “personal customers””
This is false. To be a regional director, you need 6 directors signed up with you with a minimum of 2 right under you. It has nothing to do with customers.
“The “personal customer” MUST log in with the assigned user name and password they created each time they go to the iJango site. If they do not, the referring iJango representative will not get credit for their activity.”
This is false. People do not need to be registered to make it work, but the commissions are more limited in order to prevent abuse from non-registered users.
“Many iJango people seem to think that just having a “Cheaptickets.com” link on their website earns them money. They do not appear to realize that one must click on that link and actually buy something in order for revenue to be generated”
This is false as well. It all depends on the deal the advertiser makes with the webpage posting the ad. Some pay on a per view basis, many pay on a per click basis, some even pay more to get their ad posted higher up the list.
“If click revenue was so lucrative to iJango or the reps, why would iJango charge people $150 and then $20 per month? ”
$100 of this goes to your upline for sponsoring you, not to iJango. They have to charge a cost so people don’t sign up and do nothing, wasting their bandwidth and services while not making any money. I would rather the fees are paid up front than being taken out of your comissions. Easier to track this way for the reps. Operating any business takes money incase you didn’t know. Look around the web and see how much other companies charge to start up with them. $150 sign up fee is nothing.
For a name like “Informed” you sure have no idea what you are talking about.
By the way, Freddy was not threatening anyone with things he would do himself. He was simply stating a fact that many of you are talking on behalf of google and other advertisers. You do not work for them so you do not know how any of it works. These companies can file a lawsuit against you guys for spreading false information about them because you do not represent them. Many of you seem to think advertisers and google are stupid so you have to educate them. They did not make $5 billion dollars the first quarter of this year by being ignorant. They know exactly what is going on and they do not need to be educated.
August 7th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
Below is directly pasted from the 8/1/2009 iJango official compensation plan:
Page 4:
“A Registered Customer is anyone who goes to your personal web portal (http://yourreferralcode.ijango.com) and clicks on “Sign up”. They will then become your Registered Customer.”
Page 6:
“What it Takes: A Regional Director is a representative who has personally gathered 20 active Registered Customers and personally sponsored three Directors with a total of 12 active Directors within his or her Representative Organization.”
Page 9:
To become eligible to earn all down line usage commissions from the efforts of your team of “IR’s” you must have 20 active Registered Customers”
The way I read that, if you do not have 20 Registered Customers, you will not get paid for anyone else’s activities on the web unless you have 20 registered customers.
Sean, perhaps you understand something about web revenue creation, but it appears from many other iJango reps that they completely misunderstand how revenues are generated on the web and are inadvertently spreading lies to potential directors they are trying to recruit about the expectations of revenues from web usage.
It is a moot point as the world wide web is an unforgiving marketplace. Poorly designed websites like the IJango web site do not survive very long.
IJango did everything to create buzz that they could to motivated their distributor base audience, but they forgot to make a viable product for them to promote.
As many IJango fans have said, wait and see, but it appears very farfetched that anyone will gain much as far as usage commissions.
August 7th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
Bill, those are the requirements for later on. Right now, until next friday the 14th, all you need is 6 directors with at least 2 under you. It’s a launch promotion which is why people are working hard at it right now.
Compare the model to other businesses. iJango’s requirements to succeed are far easier than most other organizations, but like any business, you have to work on it to get somewhere. Nobody ever said iJango was a “get rich overnight” scheme, but in time, you can bet some of the reps will get very rich, it just depends on how you work on your business.
August 7th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
I do understand there is a promotion from all the web ads I see, however the click revenues people are hoping to get from all those underneath them still revolve around gathering 20 registered customers and keeping them active.
IMHO, compared to other business models, there is one major thing missing in the IJango business model. It is missing a viable product. Hype is not a product for very long. The website is terrible. Why would people that are not IJango salespeople use it regularly?
You are right, some of the sales reps will get very rich off other people they sign up using the carrot of “make money every time you do a search on google”. The overwhelming majority of money to be made here is in signing up people, not in click revenues, and some people are very talented at doing that type of thing.
August 8th, 2009 at 7:51 am
StayAway:
Are you referring to the original point and click device?
Sean:
You are the one disseminating false information!
August 8th, 2009 at 11:28 am
I’m not sure how long it will take, but Google has banned adsense accounts for FAR LESS!
Maybe Matt Cutts should get a comment or two on his blog about this.
(I know he’s their spam guy, but I know that he has forwarded adsense tos violations to the appropriate people. and adwords reps are definately NOT the appropriate people)
August 8th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
Yeah Ed, because Matt Cutts is that stupid he is oblivious to what is going on :rollseyes:
They are NOT using adsense. Google has to approve any site before they use such a system anyway. Use your head.
August 8th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
David Kyle,
iJango does not compensate any individual for doing searches or clicking ads. No one earns on their own clicks. You only earn on the searches of others which are “real” because those users are not compensated for their own activities either.
Get your facts straight on these details or people will ignore what you say that may be accurate.
August 9th, 2009 at 12:31 am
So iJango is a threat and not a scam, as you said before. Now your are on a mission to spread lies and attack iJango financially by posting how to’s on excluding iJango. Would this be considered a fair trade practice? I’m not an expert on this subject matter, but it would be interesting to find out how your new tactic fairs legally. Most industries have laws governing these types of things. For a company that you say is going to be bad for advertisers, iJango sure does go out of its way to prevent fraudulant activity. There is a safe guard put in place for people to create multiple accounts when you sign up and an algorithm to track click fraud. It’s funny that your true motive is your bottom line and not the safety of the masses you heroically championed in your previous blogs. Who is scamming who now?
Just Sayin’
August 9th, 2009 at 12:32 am
Hey Sean…here you go…. from the president subdomain ijango site…
(btw, this is in the iframe of every single search completed between all three search engines on the header)
script pin type=”text/javascript”><!–
google_ad_client = "publisher number is here";
/* 160×600, created 7/25/09 */
google_ad_slot = "4532386540";
google_ad_width = 160;
google_ad_height = 600;
script
script
I removed the script tags so that it will post and will also not violate google tos for clicksniper
For your information…just in case you don’t know Sean.
Google does NOT manually approve any site…Google ONLY MANUALLY APPROVES THE ACCOUNT (and thus the first site that the account is being setup for)
I know this….
Because I have an account that has multiple sites on it.
I also manage 2 other accounts for clients which both have multiple sites on it.
I use my head.
I use it all the time.
I have used my head as a web developer (php, mysql, ajax, xml), an SEO guy, a direct marketer, and as the CEO of a small corporation that has been in existence since 2001 and has grossed over $3 million dollars in customer sales.
I have built/owned over 30 sites, quite of few of which contain hundreds of thousands of pages that span from phone service to musician erata.
I was in excel, (it’s I actually met my former biz partners, whom I have bought out), I’m now developing 3 projects concurrently, as well doing a bunch of other stuff such as raising 2 young daughters.
I have been 100% self employed since 2003, and earned over 6 figures off of the back of google in the past 2 years.
WHO the %@## are you?
August 9th, 2009 at 10:13 am
@Dave Kiley
DK>> what is not “straight” about violating Google’s policies?
Violating has to occur. People have to violate it by clicking on it fraudulently. Im sure some do with IJango and some on their own blos. I cant see where it is plausible to do it all day long for a human. Add a robot to do it and google will shut you down. You really dont seem to know the backend.
Using the portal to do your normal browsing. Which is inclusive of of advertising views, click through and purchasing. Anyone clicking to click has an issue on to themselves. Though, Google has had this problem with the grid servers setup in the past. They monitor this behavior and handle it better than you think.
If there is abuse either IJango’s clients will be shutdown and IJango will too. Im sure Google can handle themselves.
DK>>most advertisers don’t want this group of eyes. they are clouded by dollar signs.
Not true, I have actually bought products through the portal testing it and used google to get computer equipment, clothes and other items. I am sure vendors like my purchases just as much as the other purchasers straight from Google.
Advertisers care about eyes. Marketers DONT care if I get you the first time, they consider the third time you see an add as a hook, at least three times.
Remeber, people are browsing and people are not immune to seeing advertisers. By the way, when was the last time you even look to the skyscraper on the right of google.. Im immune to it myself, Im focused on the organics.
The below image shows Baidu and Google. IN short Baidu has no differential from sponsored and organics results. But, as you can see in google’s listing there is no great population on left. The focus is clearly on the organics. So, as you use IJango the masses will have a similar eyetracking.
Of the course of a year there should be an X/Y eyetracking study Im willing to bet it will be similar.
http://www.searchenginejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/chinese-eye-tracking.jpg
Further material:
(http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/02/eye-tracking-studies-more-than-meets.html)
This is not a new idea. Its a new marketing of this idea..
Bottom line is advertisers want eyes on their ads. IJango is just getting the publicity and this very blog makes that happen and a more excelerated pace, simply, it adds to the noise.. You have added to the curiosity of IJango. At this point, viewers will be Pro-Dave, Pro-IJango and you actually are helping the noise. Remember, any publicity is good publicity.
If referrals to a website increase by 10% the advertisers are going to be PRO-Ijango. Further, as IJango gets further along in their BETA-site it would be a miss for them not to target regional. It took Facebook quite awhile to get this done. Their revenues, FB’s, are through the roof this year.
Slamming is never productive for the slammer.
DK>>there are a minority of verticals that can capitalize on this demographic of middle aged, pie in the sky lemmings.
Based on what? Your feeling.. Get me facts Dave. Not your feelings.
>>None of my advertisers fall into the latter. To them, iJango is a major liability! A liability that is terminated with a click!
Again, based on what, you have no facts and several inaccuracies. Your premise of the patents are wrong. Based on these feelings you leave me with nothing to help you defend your premise. Give me something to hang my hat on to defend your position.
As it is now your container has not bottom and is incapable of holding fluid.
If you pitch your complaint to your customers with your emotion and view point I am sure they will side with your views. But your views are emotional and lack fact.
Im willing to hear you on fact and even discuss it with you. But as it stands now you have nothing that I can walk to your side with to create a unified front.
Again, IJAngo is plausible, may not be the greatest business plan and may have holes. But They are trying to capitalize on an idea, good bad or indifferent.
Pet Rocks were and are plausible, bad idea and I would never buy one. But they made money. Not a scam, a joke, and could be considered a scam but they made serious money and built an entire junk market.
I doubt very seriously this effects your clients at all. If they are having an effect lets do a study. Post your customer logs of IJango as a referrer to their sites. Than let’s calculate the past 3 months of sales, if there is any traffic increase in the next 3 months then we need to identify IJango referrals and than compare sales for these three months (Aug?sep/Oct).
That would be based on facts.
Cheers,
e
August 9th, 2009 at 10:20 am
@StayAway Says:
SW>>Please provide evidence that ‘it working.’
The sites up, they had issues with demand, an amateur mistake, agreed, but their up.
Now, they payout has not been reported as of yet. Im sure we’ll see execution or complaint this week.
SW>>David has provided much evidence from third party and verifiable sources to support his case that this is a bad idea.
No, not evidence feeling, no fact. He sites the Google T/C but can’t verify that people are fraudulently clicking. They are encouraged to use the portal. Using the portal is searching, emailing, purchasing and web perusal. This is at least an online mall. A place to gather. That means eyes, and advertisers, again want eyes.
SW>>The other side just clings to lies and ‘faith.’
Fiath is always a good thing, is it not? If you believe in something?
Lies, can you delineate the lies please. I have tried to identify them myself, I have feelings what maybe lies but have nothing to prove lies or truth at this point.
thx,
e
August 9th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
it doesn’t matter if people are fraudently clicking or not.(although I’m not sure what that means)
that’s what we can’t get through to you.
if ijango is paying reps for clicks (fraudently or not) that people make on the rep’s site.
that is violating google TOS.
period.
end of story.
August 9th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
sorry, should have prefaced that…
if ijango is paying reps for clicks made on adsense banner ads…
August 10th, 2009 at 3:10 am
Bill,
You do realize the site says BETA under the logo. This is not the finished product and will get better as we progress. Also Google, Yahoo, Facebook, etc..have all proven that a free service is a viable product. Really, what do you all have against a company thats lets its users tap into that revenue for owning a portal. Do you love Google so much that you would like them to make all the money? Can any of you SEO’s say that iJango will not cut into your revenue?
Just sayin’
August 10th, 2009 at 9:40 am
I do not doubt that it will get better, as long as it still exists, considering how much money they have already brought in by suckers like you, for all of Steve Smith’s faults, he does have some buisness sense (I know, I was in excel, and witnessed it firsthand)
the problem I have, and that most here probably have is this:
1. the hype.(vast majority of money made, will be in recruiting)
2. the price. (you talk about free services? if it’s so awesome, and so much money will be made by reps, then why charge $20 a month? You can’t honestly believe that it costs them $20 a month to provide backroom reporting do you?, if so, I have a bridge in New York to sell you)
3. The business model. (99% of ijango’s content/service is being provided by 3rd party services)
For the record, I have decided to build a free portal with an affiliate program. (I actually thought of this long before Ijango, but shelved it to build a meta search engine) it will be faster than ijango, it will actually look cool, it will have more widgets available, it will have unique features that no one else has. and best of all.
IT will be free to all.
Give me a week. I just started on it yesterday.
THat way, in 3 weeks, as an SEO, I will be able to say I’m cutting into Ijango’s revenue.
August 10th, 2009 at 11:00 am
ahh I get it now. Ed’s Jealous. Poor Ed, I hope you know what you’re doing with that free portal you are going to try and build. I hope you don’t infringe on iJango’s copyrights.
August 10th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
I do not love Google so much although I do think that they have a legitimately good product, unlike IJango. I do think that IJango has a very poorly designed website and that the company is not being completely up front and honest about some things like the website performance issues and the amount of money they will generate from clicks.
I also think that most people that do not have any reason to think one way or another about IJango almost unanimously think IJango is a scam that is designed to get people to pay up front fees and monthly maintenance fees.
Here are some excerpts from the Better Business Bureau’s recent report on IJango:
BBB Rating
Based on BBB files, this business has a BBB Rating of F.
On August 3, 2009 the Better Business Bureau met with iJango’s CEO, Rayner Smith to clarify the nature of their business. Mr. Smith and his staff indicated that they offer a business opportunity; however, they do not make any lifestyle promises based on earning potential. Similarly, he indicated that the only promise the business makes to potential clients is to pay for the recruitment of registered customers and the recruitment of others to do the same. Additionally, the Better Business Bureau asked Mr. Smith about the status of their website portal. He indicated that their hosting solution through Amazon could not handle their consumer demand and they were transitioning to a new hosting solution. Mr. Smith indicated that their portal would be up by the end of the day on August 3, 2009. However the portal remained unavailable until August 5, 2009.
On August 5, 2009 the Better Business Bureau contacted Amazon to inquire if their web services were indeed unable to meet the demand of iJango’s web traffic. In response Amazon provided the following statement:
“Thank you for calling us regarding the statement being made about Amazon Web Services (AWS). We appreciate the opportunity to provide you some information. As I mentioned, AWS is running these services for many companies at very high capacity. We have hundreds of thousands of registered developers from a broad spectrum of companies around the world, ranging from smaller companies like Playfish to larger companies such as Eli Lily, Pfizer, National Geographic, The New York Times Company, NASDAQ, ESPN, and the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. To give you an idea of the scale at which these services operate, our storage service, Amazon S3, currently holds over 64 billion objects and regularly peaks at over 100,000 requests per second. The bandwidth for just two of the services, Amazon S3 and Amazon EC2 has exceeded the bandwidth for all of the Amazon.com global websites. Our stated intent for all of our services is to have dial-tone availability. Amazon.com relies on these same services for its business and applies rigorous performance standards. We have world-class engineers working round the clock to keep the services stable and high-performing which is why we take all claims like the one you brought to us, very seriously.”
In promotional statements made by iJango representatives online, iJango claims that their business has “partnered with the Google” in order to “become the biggest Network Marketing company online.” On August 6th, 2009 BBB contacted Google regarding their affiliation with iJango and the Google Press Team provided the following statement:
“We are not affiliated with that company. Our trademark team is looking into this issue, thanks again for bringing it to our attention.”
On August 7th, BBB contacted Rhapsody regarding promotional statements made by iJango claiming “whether (consumers) download from Rhapsody or iTunes you’ll earn a percentage of each album purchased or song downloaded.” A representative stated that Rhapsody was “not affiliated with iJango” and furthermore that they had “not gotten any information from the company.”
http://www.bbb.org/central-texas/business-reviews/multi-level-selling/ijango-in-austin-tx-90066721
August 10th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Jealous?
HAHAHAHAHA
I sleep at night, because I make an HONEST buck.
Copyrights?
No, I don’t plan on using the ijango name.
I take it you mean patents?
It has already been proven, here and with my own research, that ijango is based on open source code.
Do you know what that means?
THEY CAN’T GET A PATENT!
August 11th, 2009 at 7:27 am
If you take away the internet aspect of iJango anyone can clearly see the format is the same as all other MLM schemes. Other MLM’s such as Tahitian Noni and Ignite Energy use this same format. The problem with iJango is that is has managed to catch the attention of the former successful dotcommers from the 90’s who have spent the last ten years endlessly hoping and searching for another way to cash in on the internet and will try anything to recapture that glory. If they would take this same determination and desire and apply it towards a real job then they truly may be successful. During the last two weeks of July I was bombarded with phone calls and emails from friends about how great this iJango thing is and I need to jump on quick. It’s been a little over a week since this iJango scam launched and all of the sudden these people are nowhere to be found. I feel sorry for people who invested any money in this thing. Especially the neighbor who used his kid’s soccer registration money to invest in this scam. Now he is asking for his kids to play for free on the team I coach.
August 11th, 2009 at 11:41 am
Tks, leeches GTFO!!!
August 11th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
I just need to point out that I see some bold statements on here.
You thought of this idea way before iJango.
Oh you did? And we all heard that before, sound just like a jealous punk grade school kid. Didn’t Goggle portal sites to their page before iJango or did you also think of Google befor Google?
Your going to make your own iJango type page?
What to prove the intensity of your jealousy, show off your hypocritical nature, to be able to say that your trying to cut into profits from all the individual dreamers willing to take small risk on a good idea because you thought of the idea first, or all of the above? Personally what’s wrong with spreading out some of that Internet add money to the little guys? After all didn’t google alone earn billions with us all still smiling?
And you say you sleep well earning an horniest living. I think a am seeing a much bigger picture and you need more nap time.
I could be wrong but a site like iJango should have a lot of behind the curtain expenses and is also a ”for profit” corporation so we can expect a fee for their service right? After all they want its users to spread the word as their marketing campaign. Costco rakes in millions from their membership fees and we still happy paying for it to shop there.
But hey if your willing to offer a site that can do the same for me as iJango for free then I’m all in
August 11th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
The idea that I thought of was tying a “FREE” affiliate program to a netvibes clone.
would you like to see a copy of the receipt of the clone script that I bought early this year to prove it? How about the age of the group of domains that I purchased for it? creation date of the domain that I am using for it is April 29.
I did the analysis, and came to the conclusion, that short of doing what Ijango is doing (charging affiliates) that it wouldn’t be that viable of a commercial entity without other services tied in.
Which is why I waited to launch it until after we built the cash cow if you will…a meta search engine. (which is now complete) and connected up with a major CPA network (over 70,000 products) that does XML tie ins to its entire product line based on keywords.
As far as behind the curtain expenses. IT really depends on the technology and the business philosophy.
The reason ijango is still extremely sluggish, even though they have switched to a different provider that is more .NET friendly, is because they are running an open source platform that is not very scalable.
Other than maybe BING (which I’ve been told by an insider is not), I do not know of another major portal running microsofts .NET stuff.
I’m already in beta testing BTW. Only have the subdomains, the help system, and the affiliate backroom to go.
August 12th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
talk about halfass development…
The adsense ads are NOT refreshing…
ROFL
i searched for phone service…and the default search (bing?) was showing a bunch of weird ads next to the correct results.
Then I searched for affiliate programs, and it showed the same ads as before.
Not to mention the fact that if your rez is set to 1024×768, you have to scroll to see even see the ads on yahoo and bing…
(which at one time was the most common rez for normal people)
ROFL…
Total Design Failure.
August 13th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
For all you people out there bashing ijango, shut the hell up! I’ve wasted $150 on stupid shit like designer dog clothes and expensive cat food to paying $5 a drink in Disney World when I could’ve brought our own drinks, so if I want to “waste” my money on ijango in hopes to help me and all the people I know get out of this hell hole of an economy, then let me! Let everyone. We are tired of you jealous big shots who are pissed you didn’t come up with idea and beat them to it so you want to ruin it for thousands of people. If it fails then it fails. Have you ever failed at anything? And I know that failure only makes you stronger for your next venture. So stop “doing me a favor” by telling me this is a scam. Mary Kay is multilevel too and I’ve done it and it’s still going!
I got an idea for ya. Go out there and invent a “job” for people where they do absolutely nothing all day and get paid for it and I’ll join ya! Give me a break!
August 14th, 2009 at 12:55 am
I hear a lot of lonely pitiful people on this ijango biz. Do customers of google, yahoo or bing have to pay more if they generate more traffic? Who cares ia google only make 4 billion a quarter. Ed you sound like that ja..a.. that was vice president that invented the interent. Give me a freaking break people this is a free enterprise country and if us ignorant people can make money without an education off people doing what they do on an everyday basis than so be it. I learned a long time ago when you have something good there are going t be people that are envious, jealous and down right nasty waiting for the first opportunity to tear you down. That said it has made me that much more pumped that this is a good thing. Ed you know a lot about ijango makes me think your an excutive with ijango that Steve Smith hired to promote ijango what a great idea. BTW I own 2 successful business’ that generate over $500,000 a year. $150 is a one time fee WOW thats a lot of money. ROFLMAO…. $20.00 to manage back office, have a website with emil address…. Not many companies hosting websites for less than $20.00 a month anyways. I would rather spend $150.00 on a chance of making a lot of money then turn my back and watch all the people I could have signed up get signed up by some else nd get my money. Do you anyone that buys lottery tickets on a 1 in a million chance of winning or what about the bingo halls that sell out or paying over $100 to get a seat at an NFL game oops your from Texas where both their teams are like you.. a loser…
August 15th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
Looks like Ijango is closing up shop before even being in business for a full month
http://www.meetup.com/ijango closed!
August 16th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
That’s probably the one of the best indirect and unintentinoal compliments I have ever heard.
Gore actually did HELP create the internet.
He was the principle architect of the bill that funded ARPANET (DARPA information processing system)
DARPA created the IP protocol…
And yes…I do proudly wear the vestments of a technological Geek. The first time I hacked a computer for a friend was when I was 12.
August 19th, 2009 at 11:44 pm
Its funny, after all the evidence laid before them, people STILL cant see iJango for what it is. Even the Better Business Bureau warns against it (as posted above, or Google “iJango Better Business Bureau”). Sad how the uneducated masses will believe anything served with a dish of hype followed by a glass of lies. Such a shady business, your only income is from signing up directors, you wont get a dime for the rest.
The reason people like us naysayers post here, is so that hopefully people will get to see behind the curtain and make a judgement call on their own, after seeing what both sides have to say. No one is really bent on making iJango fail, that will inevitably happen by its own hand, just trying to clear the smoke for the level headed.
I wonder why all the kool aid drinkers come post their diatribes here personally? Their ill informed ramblings, which, when read by someone without a view yet, doesn’t help their case. They regurgitate a lot of stuff you hear coming from that used car salesman Camerons mouth, then stuff they make up on their own. Its probably the fact they are butt hurt once they see the light, so they retaliate like a cornered animal.
Oh well. To the ones who made some money, kudos, you were able to sell a product-less idea to people who probably shouldn’t be wasting that money in the first place. Sleep well at night.
August 20th, 2009 at 10:43 pm
Looks like the iJango supporters have hacked your blog and redirected it to Twitter. Tells me you’re doing a great job reporting on this situation.
August 25th, 2009 at 11:27 pm
Ijango is a scam…..All they care about is getting people to pay $150 and $20 a month. Tha money keeps the company running, and they kick back say 50 of each $150 taken in, so $100 profit to the company. lets see 1 million $100 is 100 million dollars, 10 million is 1 illion dollars. that is the objective….right there. Maybe after they have 10 million sets of eyballs on their portal then they can seel advertising. If they never get to 10 million, well they made a bunch of money on the way….. think about it, how do you make money when someone sends an email, how do youmake money when someone downloads an itunes song. Apple charges .69 or .99 and don’t kickback to anyone. They dont need IJange. In fact there are lots of sites like IJango, before IJange. Look at Yahoo, Netscape, MSN, Google, DogPile, these all do the same thing and don’t coast anyone $150 dollars and $20 a month. It is a scam. Tell me why the IJango talks about commission for selling account or hiring Directors, for $150 each, they talk about the 10 or 20 dollar kickback you get. when it comes to clicks they talk about some imaginable algorithm that pays you a percentage, but it never tells you how much that amount is. 5% of nothing is…….IJango, do YOU! thanks…
August 27th, 2009 at 5:27 am
To IJango (August 15). The iJango MeetUp was closed by MeetUp, not because of anything iJango did. They closed the site of several other MLM MeetUps saying that they were for profit groups, which violated the MeetUp policy.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:11 am
While I like to quote 12 step programs, they only apply to lesser human beings than I. Being of superior intellect, such programs do not apply to the likes of me. Drugs and alcohol only sharpen my mind and my body. I can bench press 500 pounds after a few lines of coke. After a few lines of coke, the ladies come running to be near me – I’ve slept with 347 Miss USA, Miss Universe and Mrs. USA pagaent prospects.
I only do business with those of the highest ethical standards. Jason Breakey and I were able to build one of the best dating service companies in the US in a span of a few short years. It doesn’t matter that we had no members – we built a marketplace for those that were to be lucky enough to be part of something bigger. If there weren’t enough members, then they weren’t worthy and we saved our other members the heartache of meeting someone of lesser quality than they were entitled to.
Forget about the lawsuits, forget that we were found guilty, forget that Jason Breakey is guilty for possession of guns and drugs, forget about all the charges of sexual harassment, forget about the charges for using employees personal credit cards, forget about the charges for not paying employees. I could go on and on . . . .
WE DESERVE THE MONEY!!!! IT DOESN’T MATTER IF PEOPLE DIDN’T GET ANYTHING IN RETURN – WE WERE SIMPLY EXERCISING OUR GOD GIVEN RIGHT TO TAKE MONEY OUT OF THE UNIVERSE FOR USE AS WE PLEASE. ANYONE THAT DOESN’T LIKE IT IS STUPID AND A MINION.
IT DOESN’T MATTER IF IJANGO FLOPS. IT DOESN’T MATTER IF OUR NEXT BUSINESS VENTURE FLOPS. IN THE END GOD WILL CONTINUE TO GIVE ME WHAT I DESERVE.
GOD BLESS
November 5th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
For the person who is going around slamming a company that you do not have alll your facts about is ridiculous. So you are making a six figure income plus in the corporate world??? I doubt it. You are the same ignorant person that was taught to get a bunch of college degrees, work for someone else anad make them rich without benefitting yourself. Entreprenures have vision and help others, do you.
So I suppose AMWAY failed and is not successful right??? The owner of AMWAY owns the Orlando Magic. Amway grossed over 7 billion dollars last year. It is not get rich quick. Like anything in life you have to work hard at it.
MLM’s have made more miliionaires than anything in the world. Do your research..
Also, Bill Gates has millions of people responsible for his income, do you???
November 10th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
WOW, unbelievable responses. I saw something about this today on Facebook and looked at a YouTube video about it. Glad I looked at this before signing up. I’m going to do more homework on them. Thanks!
November 19th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
Listen up, I’m the source you need to hear.
I have done network marketing for over 5 years, and I think it is a great investment vehicle. Anyone who disagrees, YOU ARE BROKE. People who do not earn passive income do have an opinion that matters when talking about investment vehicles.
The most expensive advice is advice from broke people.
I started with Ultimate Match back when it FIRST started up. Directly sponsored by Mike and Barbara (awesome people!) It went from Ultimate Match with a dating service called soulmate, then it went to Ultimate Choice Travel and then to iJango.
This company is and has always been HORRIBLE. Don’t get me wrong it’s not the reps! There are many reps who are AWESOME people, but the COMPANY just sucks. I admire Steve Smith’s billionaire success with Excel, but this new business venture is horrendous.
The little hoops people have to jump through killed a lot of people in my downline. I had over 3,000 people and still didn’t make that much money compared to what I make without this business.
The corporate office has been and continues to be lousy, with billing, technical issues and customer service, among a million other things.
The original investment of $150 to get in, is not bad. I paid over $500 to get in back in the hay day. It’s a business, expect to invest some money and stop whining.
My problem is the little hidden things people miss. The reinstatement fees when you never used the service, you pay for something you got NO value out of. The charges to withdraw from your e-wallet (for two of my businesses I have this service and it doesn’t cost me ANYTHING, it’s automated) this little extra money * 10,000 reps per week. That is why that is there. I feel it’s a little out of integrity, something this business has never had.
Cons
Their profit margin is set to high for the value they provide.
Their operations has been and continues to be a mess.
The majority of the money is made through sponsoring other people, the revenue generated by the ads is less – resulting in a (probably not intentional) pyramid scheme.
BBB – grade F, I quit after seeing this, in which I was only refunded $14.95 instead of the $19.95 even after being billed just one day after I quit.
iJango reps – there is money to be made, but there are literally thousands of ways to making money on the internet besides this company. The profit margin on this business sucks, it will be challenging for you. You need to REALLY LEARN how to market, the company will not help, their marketing plan… is you. Your downline is really going to need your help, so focus your attention on finding marketers, not just anyone, it will HELP you TREMENDOUSLY. Do not use PPC advertising that links directly to your ijango page, you WILL LOSE money, and you will get google slapped (if you don’t know what that means, look it up).
Not a rep? Do not join this company, look for other network marketing companies as it is a good opportunity with the RIGHT company.
November 23rd, 2009 at 12:15 pm
I really don’t understand. You must be smarter than Google, or maby iJango does not ask people to click. I have already advertised with iJango last week and have had three sales from the internet by local people. Here is how I found out about ijango Adz.
Click here:
It woks for me.
November 24th, 2009 at 12:52 am
Attention Dana: If you worked in the Corporate World and didn’t make six figures – then you were a low paid minion.
I have worked in Corporate America and made well over six figures for the last fifteen years and augment my income with other side ventures. It’s a nice way to keep medical benefits while pursuing freedom and additional income.
Am I anti-MLM? Nope. I am against putting money in the pockets of people such as the Cameron Sharpe.
Any review of information that is publically available make it clear without a doubt that iJango is a total scam. You can put aside the investigation by the Texas Attorney Generals office. You can put aside the confirmed lack of partnerships with Google, MSN, Yahoo, eBay and others that Cameron Sharpe has indicated. You can put aside the “F” rating by Better Business Bureaus. You can put aside the news exposes in multiple cities across the country that lay out concerns about iJango.
Even if you put the above issues aside, the background of Cameron Sharpe should be reason enough to not do business with iJango. You can also go do research on the people Cameron Sharpe has done business with in the past which should be reason enough to give an indication of his ethics. Cameron’s self-professed mentor was just found guilty of major criminal charges, including possession of firearms and drugs.
If you are giving iJango money, you will only further impact the $25k you earned as a customer service representative for the Corporation you used to work for.
As for me, I earn a good income in Corporate America, have full benefits and a 401(k), and get paid annual bonuses for performance that combined provide a reliable income stream and a tax shelter. This consistency allows me to also fund other side income projects.
I will agree with you that you do help earn executives money in corporate America. That is especially true for those on the lowest rung of the corporate food chain.
Those that have pursued an education, however, and have proven their value, can make exceptional incomes and have the freedom to pursue other interests on the side.
My suggestion is for you to get an education and learn how to articulate the value you bring to society. If you don’t, you will only put more money in people of far less scruples, such as the Cameron Sharpe.
December 3rd, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Just babbeling… your a douche…
“I made 6 figures for over 15 years”.. who in the hell cares…
Come in here and put people down like your some kind of corporate puppet.. and call somebody else a minion because they didnt make 6 figures… thats just wrong..
The thing is…. people like you…. work for people like me….
Get into 7, 8, 9, and 10 figures then you can feel accomplished, until then shut your hole…
because to me, your just as bad as the guy your posting against, Cameron…
“Ive got a 401 K, I make 6 figures… Im a douche bad”…
about sums it up..
December 19th, 2009 at 1:34 am
Top of the day to you Dave,
Glad you are making 7-10 digits in your income. That would certainly give you the free time to post on this board and extoll the virtues of MLM scams.
Are you District Manager, Regional Manager, National Director, Global Senior Director or Interstellar Sr. VP?
December 21st, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Actually…I just sent in my ijango cancellation form, sent emails to my whole team to get out if you want the truth.. too many promises, not enough delivered, and way too sloppy. It was a good learning lesson..
Thanks
My suggestions to everybody – stay away – dont waste your money or time!
January 3rd, 2010 at 11:38 pm
Congratulations on submitting your cancellation form to the new 800 lb Gorilla.
Too bad you will continue to get the monthly “back-office” fee charged to your credit card each month. But hey, that is a minor concession given your substantial 7-digit income.
Be sure to send congratulations to your “downline” for all the success you doubtless have to show. Hope Cameron has agreed to your continued sexual advances and you’ve gotten what you actually wanted from your relationship with iJango and the unstoppable success machine known as Cameron Sharpe aka Barrett Stone.
Now that you’ve gotten out of iJango, perhaps you can pursue an education and get a job that doesn’t revolve around stealing from people.
January 10th, 2010 at 12:14 am
You know what the best part of my day is.. Not having to deal with pieces of shit like yourself. Yes, its true… im sure you are ghetto scum.. heck Id bet on it. I bet your some old bald fat POS who has probably never made a dollar online, and you probably bought into some mlm’s before or some online businesses but you were just to fricken stupid and uneducated to even make a penny online so now your mad at the world because of your lazy failures because you probably first off didnt make an effort and secondly im sure you bought into the hype, did nothing, and now you blame the world because you failed and now you call every opportunity out there a scam. Your probably one of those people who spent like $49 bucks and it seems like a million to you because you have no balls to take any risk. If you do, you do nothing, and its everybodies fault, so now you sit on blogs like this and spit all your bullshit to everybody else, and hope you can get a few followers. Its too bad people like you exsist, hopefully your infertile so you cant bread another stupid generation of “Just Babbelers”. 800lb gorilla, back office fee’s., maybe you should take some english reading classes and go take a look at ijangos terms, conditions, join for all I care, because your beef is with cameron.. who cares, maybe you were bed buddies, prision butt partners? Who knows.. One thing I do know is you will sit at your “just over broke” for twenty years, get a pat on the back, a gold watch., and in six months you will croak.. either way, hopefully you already have that gold watch and you’ve been retired 5 months and 29 days.. Unstoppable success machine? What fricken planet are you from…
January 22nd, 2010 at 10:18 am
Dave appears to really be upset about the $149 he lost plus the additional $19.95 he will pay in perpetuity to iJango.
Based on your writing skills, you are obviously well educated and financially secure. You are obviously well educated regarding online business marketing and the pot of gold that iJango is delivering all over the world.
Pissed because you never made it to Global Account Executive for iJango? That would have been the biggest title in your life.
Don’t worry, Steve and Cameron will soon have a new MLM ready for you to cash in on what is “rightfully yours”. They will apply your “backoffice fees” to this new venture, once you pay them the upfront fee required.
Not sure who is handing out gold watches anymore – certainly not my company. I’ll be glad, however, to mail you and old Timex I have to you. Just give me your address and I”ll get it mailed to you asap.
As for income, I’ll be glad to share tax returns any day of the week with you. You talk a big game – put your money where your mouth is.
JB